Welcome to the SAGES Stories Podcast!
In episode 14, we talk to surgeon extraordinaire, Chair of Surgery at Stanford, Director of the ABS, and amazing person: Dr. Mary Hawn!
Your hosts Shirin Towfigh, MD and Kevin El Hayek, MD talk to Dr. Hawn about all things Board related, issues facing surgeons today, the challenges of being a two doctor household, and who in surgery has Vizslas.
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